Primer/tercer: decimoprimer? Decimotercer?

mia s.A1Kwiziq community member

Primer/tercer: decimoprimer? Decimotercer?

Do all numbers ending in 1 and 3 (11, 13, 21, 23, 31, 33) change when before masc sing nouns?  Or just for 1 and 3

Asked 5 months ago
SilviaKwiziq Native Spanish TeacherCorrect answer

Hola Mia S.

Great question! In Spanish, only “primero” and “tercero drop the final -o before a singular masculine noun, becoming primer and tercer”.

Examples:

El primer día (not el primero día)
El tercer piso (not el tercero piso)

This apócope rule does not apply to other ordinal numbers ending in 1 or 3, such as undécimo, decimotercero, vigésimo primero, etc. Those stay the same:

El decimoprimer aniversario
El vigésimo tercer capítulo

So to answer your question: it’s only “primero” and “tercero that change—regardless of whether they are used alone or as part of a compound number like vigésimo tercer.

Hope that helps!

Saludos

Silvia

SilviaKwiziq Native Spanish TeacherCorrect answer

Hola J. S.

Thanks for pointing this out — I see how my wording could have caused some confusion. Let me clarify.

The apócope rule only applies to primero and tercero when they come right before a singular masculine noun. That’s why they shorten to primer and tercer:

  • el primer día

  • el tercer piso

This rule does not apply to other ordinal numbers that end in 1 or 3, whether they appear alone or as part of a compound number. So forms like undécimo, decimotercero, vigésimo primero, vigésimo tercer all stay the same.

So the takeaway is: only primeroprimer and tercerotercer change before a singular masculine noun. All other ordinals, even if they end in 1 or 3, remain unchanged.

Hope that clears it up!

Saludos
Silvia

J. S.B1Kwiziq community member

Silvia - Am I missing something?  Your answer appears to contradict itself.  "The apócope rule does NOT apply ...", but then you give examples where it DOES apply, and then you say "that [they] change - regardless of whether they are used alone or as part of a compound number".  

mia s. asked:

Primer/tercer: decimoprimer? Decimotercer?

Do all numbers ending in 1 and 3 (11, 13, 21, 23, 31, 33) change when before masc sing nouns?  Or just for 1 and 3

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